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		<title>By: Cailin Coilleach</title>
		<link>http://www.nekosthinkbox.com/2009/08/31/tenso-no-thank-you/comment-page-1/#comment-3294</link>
		<dc:creator>Cailin Coilleach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 14:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These days they -do- offer the merging of multiple parcels into one as a service per default. Oddly enough their FAQ still says they don&#039;t but the option is there as clear as day! Go to your &quot;my parcels&quot; list. When you go to the page that deals with the payment and the forwarding of the parcels to your own address you can check boxes next to each parcel to &quot;consolidate&quot; them into one. Great! That could save you some money right there. I&#039;ve also found that their EMS shipping rates are a sight cheaper than Amazon&#039;s S&amp;H rates. Two books (ringing in at Y1200) would have cost me Y4000 at Amazon, while Tenso charges me a less insane Y2000.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These days they -do- offer the merging of multiple parcels into one as a service per default. Oddly enough their FAQ still says they don&#8217;t but the option is there as clear as day! Go to your &#8220;my parcels&#8221; list. When you go to the page that deals with the payment and the forwarding of the parcels to your own address you can check boxes next to each parcel to &#8220;consolidate&#8221; them into one. Great! That could save you some money right there. I&#8217;ve also found that their EMS shipping rates are a sight cheaper than Amazon&#8217;s S&amp;H rates. Two books (ringing in at Y1200) would have cost me Y4000 at Amazon, while Tenso charges me a less insane Y2000.</p>
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		<title>By: neko&#8217;s thinkbox &#187; News, good and bad and&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://www.nekosthinkbox.com/2009/08/31/tenso-no-thank-you/comment-page-1/#comment-2282</link>
		<dc:creator>neko&#8217;s thinkbox &#187; News, good and bad and&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 14:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] finally got my Ar Tonelico manga, you know, the one that was shipped (late) with ominous Tenso. As you can see in the image above, it&#8217;s Ar Tonelico ~arpeggio~ 1-3, Ar Tonelico II 1-3, and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] finally got my Ar Tonelico manga, you know, the one that was shipped (late) with ominous Tenso. As you can see in the image above, it&#8217;s Ar Tonelico ~arpeggio~ 1-3, Ar Tonelico II 1-3, and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: nekosasu</title>
		<link>http://www.nekosthinkbox.com/2009/08/31/tenso-no-thank-you/comment-page-/#comment-2276</link>
		<dc:creator>nekosasu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 14:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, it is, especially for stuff that the seller won&#039;t send internationally (amazon.co.jp Marketplace, Yahoo! Auctions Japan, Japanese webshops). Usually I would have gone with Rinkya, but let&#039;s say I wanted to give Tenso a try.

In terms of versatility, it&#039;s slightly inferior to Rinkya because it doesn&#039;t serve as a bidding help/platform for auction sites like Y!AJ. However, the proxy service is a lot easier to use: you sign up, you immediately get a personal Tenso address, and you&#039;re good to go (while Rinkya requires a long and tedious identification process). And they ship anytime in the week (unlike Rinkya who ships only twice a week, IIRC). Haven&#039;t had the time to compare commission and other fees, though, but I guess both should be at the same range.

As I said, my only gripe with Tenso &lt;strong&gt;was&lt;/strong&gt; that they didn&#039;t seem to be able to join packages, thus forcing me to pay shipping+commission on the separate items and almost doubling the price tag. Now that I know that they can upon request (by providing the registered package numbers from the items page (they only do that on Wednesdays though)), it&#039;s good. Once they provide an official option, it will be perfect. But it&#039;s as said in the comments above, proxies only make sense if it can&#039;t be helped!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, it is, especially for stuff that the seller won&#8217;t send internationally (amazon.co.jp Marketplace, Yahoo! Auctions Japan, Japanese webshops). Usually I would have gone with Rinkya, but let&#8217;s say I wanted to give Tenso a try.</p>
<p>In terms of versatility, it&#8217;s slightly inferior to Rinkya because it doesn&#8217;t serve as a bidding help/platform for auction sites like Y!AJ. However, the proxy service is a lot easier to use: you sign up, you immediately get a personal Tenso address, and you&#8217;re good to go (while Rinkya requires a long and tedious identification process). And they ship anytime in the week (unlike Rinkya who ships only twice a week, IIRC). Haven&#8217;t had the time to compare commission and other fees, though, but I guess both should be at the same range.</p>
<p>As I said, my only gripe with Tenso <strong>was</strong> that they didn&#8217;t seem to be able to join packages, thus forcing me to pay shipping+commission on the separate items and almost doubling the price tag. Now that I know that they can upon request (by providing the registered package numbers from the items page (they only do that on Wednesdays though)), it&#8217;s good. Once they provide an official option, it will be perfect. But it&#8217;s as said in the comments above, proxies only make sense if it can&#8217;t be helped!</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan A</title>
		<link>http://www.nekosthinkbox.com/2009/08/31/tenso-no-thank-you/comment-page-1/#comment-2281</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 02:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm, this service is interesting. Mail proxy, basically. I always thought there should be like, privatized mail proxy service, where there is no way for anyone (read anyone) to find out who a package was shipped to... crazy :) (of course, other than seeing who comes to pick packages up).

Still, this Tenso is a cool concept.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm, this service is interesting. Mail proxy, basically. I always thought there should be like, privatized mail proxy service, where there is no way for anyone (read anyone) to find out who a package was shipped to&#8230; crazy :) (of course, other than seeing who comes to pick packages up).</p>
<p>Still, this Tenso is a cool concept.</p>
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		<title>By: nekosasu</title>
		<link>http://www.nekosthinkbox.com/2009/08/31/tenso-no-thank-you/comment-page-1/#comment-2277</link>
		<dc:creator>nekosasu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 11:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Updated post with a note. They do not officially bundle package contents, but will still do it upon customer request. :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Updated post with a note. They do not officially bundle package contents, but will still do it upon customer request. :D</p>
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		<title>By: relentlessflame</title>
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		<dc:creator>relentlessflame</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 16:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, to be honest, I think the usual assumption based on the way it&#039;s explained on their site would be &quot;ship them 3 boxes, they ship you 3 boxes&quot;, but you assumed they would group them because you&#039;ve dealt with other services that do it differently.  I agree that it&#039;s &quot;buyer beware&quot;, but I don&#039;t think it was &quot;buried in the fineprint&quot; either.  You just didn&#039;t understand the services they offered; whether their explanations were unclear is open for debate, I suppose.

Anyway, clearly the main use for Tenso would be in cases where the merchant doesn&#039;t ship internationally, such as the marketplace, or Amazon&#039;s game/toy inventory (or items sold by game publishers that are misclassified as games, like Key soundtracks and so on).  In most cases, Amazon&#039;s rates would otherwise actually work out to be a bit cheaper than EMS, except if you were ordering a large quantity of light items (since Amazon&#039;s shipping rates are by quantity, and EMS is by weight).  So, you are right that you wouldn&#039;t want to have items go through them if they could otherwise be shipped directly to you.  All the stuff they highlight on the site are cases where merchants won&#039;t ship overseas.  So that&#039;s probably the main use.  Like I said, it&#039;s just one tool in the arsenal; certainly not the be-all-and-end-all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, to be honest, I think the usual assumption based on the way it&#8217;s explained on their site would be &#8220;ship them 3 boxes, they ship you 3 boxes&#8221;, but you assumed they would group them because you&#8217;ve dealt with other services that do it differently.  I agree that it&#8217;s &#8220;buyer beware&#8221;, but I don&#8217;t think it was &#8220;buried in the fineprint&#8221; either.  You just didn&#8217;t understand the services they offered; whether their explanations were unclear is open for debate, I suppose.</p>
<p>Anyway, clearly the main use for Tenso would be in cases where the merchant doesn&#8217;t ship internationally, such as the marketplace, or Amazon&#8217;s game/toy inventory (or items sold by game publishers that are misclassified as games, like Key soundtracks and so on).  In most cases, Amazon&#8217;s rates would otherwise actually work out to be a bit cheaper than EMS, except if you were ordering a large quantity of light items (since Amazon&#8217;s shipping rates are by quantity, and EMS is by weight).  So, you are right that you wouldn&#8217;t want to have items go through them if they could otherwise be shipped directly to you.  All the stuff they highlight on the site are cases where merchants won&#8217;t ship overseas.  So that&#8217;s probably the main use.  Like I said, it&#8217;s just one tool in the arsenal; certainly not the be-all-and-end-all.</p>
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		<title>By: nekosasu</title>
		<link>http://www.nekosthinkbox.com/2009/08/31/tenso-no-thank-you/comment-page-/#comment-2279</link>
		<dc:creator>nekosasu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 15:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, but that information is quite important, yet it’s pretty much hidden on the page, behind all the “cheaper shipping” messages. Like a company using small print to hide additional service costs. I’m sure a lot people have run into that trap. That’s why I call bullshit.

At least for Europe, the difference with amazon&#039;s rates were 0, if not more expensive. The only thing that would have been okay to ship with Tenso would have been the marketplace item which could not be sent internationally. In either case, it absolutely didn’t make sense to have the whole stuff sent to Tenso. Lesson learnt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, but that information is quite important, yet it’s pretty much hidden on the page, behind all the “cheaper shipping” messages. Like a company using small print to hide additional service costs. I’m sure a lot people have run into that trap. That’s why I call bullshit.</p>
<p>At least for Europe, the difference with amazon&#8217;s rates were 0, if not more expensive. The only thing that would have been okay to ship with Tenso would have been the marketplace item which could not be sent internationally. In either case, it absolutely didn’t make sense to have the whole stuff sent to Tenso. Lesson learnt.</p>
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		<title>By: relentlessflame</title>
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		<dc:creator>relentlessflame</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 15:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, *OR* just keep in mind that they don&#039;t bundle multiple packages together, and only use it when you&#039;re sure things will ship together (or if you&#039;re willing to pay the shipping for each).  I&#039;ve had a bunch of stuff forwarded through them, but they&#039;re just a &quot;slap an EMS sticker on the box&quot; service -- hence why they charge less in fees.  Granted you&#039;re ticked off, but there is no &quot;false advertisement&quot; here; they clearly say they don&#039;t re-pack packages.  They&#039;re just one tool in an importer&#039;s arsenal that people can use if/when it makes sense.  For normal Amazon orders, and such, I think it works just fine...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, *OR* just keep in mind that they don&#8217;t bundle multiple packages together, and only use it when you&#8217;re sure things will ship together (or if you&#8217;re willing to pay the shipping for each).  I&#8217;ve had a bunch of stuff forwarded through them, but they&#8217;re just a &#8220;slap an EMS sticker on the box&#8221; service &#8212; hence why they charge less in fees.  Granted you&#8217;re ticked off, but there is no &#8220;false advertisement&#8221; here; they clearly say they don&#8217;t re-pack packages.  They&#8217;re just one tool in an importer&#8217;s arsenal that people can use if/when it makes sense.  For normal Amazon orders, and such, I think it works just fine&#8230;</p>
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